Hello,

Does anyone know this accordion: Accordion Paul Beuscher 96 basses. 3 rows of chords and 3 rows of basses left hand. 3 left-hand registers.
3 right-hand voices, 2 flutes and a bassoon with 5 registers ( full stop, 1 flute, 2 flutes, 1 bassoon, flute + bassoon )
It's for sale on the bon coin, it matches my criteria but I don't know it at all and it's not possible for me to try it. Is it a reliable brand, and is the sound "powerful" enough?
If you have any information ..... Thanks a lot
26/04/2023
8 Replies
ducarm
26/04/2023
I understand that they were made by Piermaria
michele27630
26/04/2023
Thank you for taking the time to answer me.
It's a good sign, I may be tempted.
Have a nice day
bernadette1952
26/04/2023
Attention le bon coin!!!!!neuf I say yes, if not it is necessary to make see has a specialist, I had an opinion for one of my accordion it is necessary to see the blades if they are oxidized the restoration can cost very expensive. this accordion is surely a gala of Piermaria of the years 1980...
michele27630
27/04/2023
Thank you Bernadette for your advice. So I asked for more information. On the ad it said that the felts had been changed and that it had been serviced. I asked the date and by whom, I am waiting for an answer.
Good day
Michèle
pontiac
27/04/2023
Hello Michèle,

I can only give you one piece of advice, an accordion, and an acoustic one at that.
The complexity of the instrument, the cost of repairing it, however small, can be expensive. The sound can also be very different depending on the manufacturer.

Sincerely
michele27630
27/04/2023
Thank you for your advice and I will follow it. I will look for closer to home.
Have a nice evening
ACCORDEONIAL
07/05/2023
HELLO, I am selling a red cavagnolo with the same characteristics and year. I had put it on sale 1.300€ (micro akg included) - revision bill of about 600€. Price to be discussed and if however you had to come in Charente-Maritime near Royan/Saintes????
michele27630
07/05/2023
Thank you, but you are a bit far for me, I am in Ardeche.
Good weekend
Michèle
Hello everyone,
I would like to have some information that I have not found anywhere on the midi system. I know that it can be installed on an acoustic accordion, in order to continue to play without being connected to an arranger or expander and to keep his accordion without having to buy another one.
I would like to know how much it would cost to install this device on my Fun star 120, and is it a danger for the accordion, and who should I contact for this manipulation, and finally, how much does the midi cost in total (arranger, midi device,...)?
I thank you in advance and wish you a pleasant day.
Léo
15/06/2014
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leoenderlin
15/06/2014
Hello, thank you but I can't find the prices I will contact Limex by mail.
MusicallyLéo
pontiac
16/06/2014
Hello Leo,

The technique for MIDI on the acoustic accordion is not "open", it remains quite rare today except for a few professionals and it is quite expensive.

Cavagnolo has made a big leap forward with their new digital Digit Pro or simple model. They also do mixed acoustic/digital or all digital modification from an acoustic.


Good research


pontiac
leoenderlin
16/06/2014
Thanks to you for the information, I have also inquired (below is a part of the email from Limex):
"The installation of the LIMEX system on your HOHNER accordion is not a problem.
You don't lose any register of your accordion, of course a cut-off register is a plus. There is no risk for your accordion, the acoustic sound is not changed.
LIMEX offers several solutions. Prices vary from 1250€ for the basic system to 3525€ for a complete system transforming your acoustic accordion into a real digital accordion, with the addition of microphones (also possible without microphones)
Digital has never been so easily accessible at a lower cost. "Good evening Leo
pontiac
16/06/2014
Here you are with a price range which seems to me correct.
It is true that the MIDI and now the digital of modern times embellish the game, it also opens new repertoire.

The cost is decreasing, but for good stuff you still have to pay the price. There is no mystery about it, quality has a price. Then the options (Microphone, HF etc..) must be able to be added later.

A good system to be able to make evolve its instrument with time and the means.

Hoping that your pleasure is at the rendezvous,



Good evening



pontiac
leoenderlin
17/06/2014
Thank you for giving me your opinion, but I'm not going to buy it right away, but I'm still considering it for the future.
Good evening
Leo
pontiac
17/06/2014
Leo,

there are other MIDI systems like Musitech.

http://www.musictech-midi.it/sistemi-midi/midi-per-fisarmonica

Q selec and Q linkDynamic:

http://www.nouvelaccord.com/boutique/21-systeme-midi-musictech




On KEYBOARDS FAN CLUB you will find everything related to the accordion:

http://keyboards.leforum.eu/f332-ACCORDEONS-ACOUSTIQUES-NUMERIQUES-ET-CLAVIERS-MAITRE.htm

LIMEX Section: http://keyboards.leforum.eu/f348-limex.htm


MUSITECH section: http://keyboards.leforum.eu/f280-Musictech.htm



Here's what you need to know.

Musically


pontiac







leoenderlin
18/06/2014
Thank you for these precisions.I don't know why but for me noon = Limex but not at all.Good dayLéo
Hello to all of you It is with the agreement of a moderator and the owner of this site that I allow to inform you of the following: My name is Dan PLUCHARD, and I am the official demonstrator for all France of BONIFASSI digital and acoustic accordions. You can reach me at 06 78 46 27 53 or by mail at : [email protected]. I am at your disposal for any information & demonstrations. Musically, Dan. As an indication characteristics of the digital VIVO : Right keyboard : 50 effective notes, 66 keys, 4 rows, range from D# to E. Left keyboard 96 basses in 3X3.
Exceptional sound quality. 37.8 cm X 20 cm X 35.8 cm.
Digital accordion hf with digital effects 895 integrated sounds of direct access including 281 sounds of accordion, including 30 of bando, 124 of organs, violins, brass, etc.... 100% Italian instrument. Autonomy: 20 hours. Fast battery recharge. Instrument equipped with valves and complete mechanics on the bass and right hand to keep the same playing sensation as on an acoustic accordion. New Ergonomics calculated for an optimum handling, and a better balance. Weight : 5.9 kg. Lightweight drum system inside the accordion. Adjustable and memorable transmission sections on treble, chords, bass. Transmission on multiple MIDI channels. Possibility of calling up to 200 registrations or tones from the arranger with wire or HF. Can drive a remote arranger with or without wires. Can also work in MIDI and as a master keyboard.
Calls up 24 programs for immediate use with a single click, which can be stored and modified for the 895 sounds and for each section, and can be used simultaneously with the arranger. Polyphonic potential 128.
Transposition in all keys on the VIVO via the arranger simultaneously.
Modification and memorization of octaves and volumes for each section separately.
Volume: Indicator light for setting and memorizing sound levels. Headphone jack, stereo output, UP and DOWN scrolling,
Possibility to mute the arranger or VIVO sounds independently (even remotely). Activation of the bellows expression assignable separately for the right and left hand.
Instrument equipped with molded magnetic diffusion contacts. (No more mechanical contacts)
Activation or deactivation of the reverb by simple manipulation. Designed for maximum simplicity:
Undeniably lightweight, this instrument is rock-solidly reliable, and its well-designed ergonomics allow for weight distribution and balance to spread the load.
The sounds contained in the VIVO have been the subject of particular research: a whole panel of sounds is at your disposal to meet all your needs. Hundreds of sounds have been studied so that you can find all the combinations you are looking for. "SIMPLICITY MODE
Designed specifically for ease of use, this instrument has a minimum number of buttons. When you turn it on, you just have to play directly. To change the sound, you just have to press one of the 12 lined up keys. By pressing twice the same 12 keys in line (double click), you get 12 new programs (so 24 programs accessible simply). INSTRUMENT ACCESSIBLE TO ALL
In "simple mode", anyone can use this instrument, even someone who is not familiar with a digital instrument. "IN "NORMAL MODE
In "normal mode" this instrument is easy to use. There are only two keys that serve as MENU: the "SELECT" key and the "MIDI" key. These two keys, (8 combinations maximum) serve as access to all the functions of the instrument. Quick access to the 895 sounds : position " internal " and put the red light on " treble ". In the interest of simplicity, we are at your disposal for any further information.
28/09/2011
15 Replies
jphf51
29/09/2011
Hello, my name is Jean-Pierre (djipy for my fellow musicians), I have already heard about the VIVO, it looks good.I have an old Odysé CAVA (10 years old already), if you pass one day in the Valence-Romans area (drome), I would like to see it closely; Musically to you Djipy
Tenente Dan
29/09/2011
It is a "friendly" fight between Bonifassi, Cavagnolo, and Roland. I have a Roland FR3 X, a 120 bass with a very good possibilities/price ratio (2500 euros new in December 2010). I am very happy with it. I attended, at the last music fair, the Cavagnolo and Bonifassi demonstrations. It is certain that they offer greater possibilities, even better sounds. On the other hand the prices are much higher. The Roland is perfect for me who is taking up the accordion again after 30 years of interruption. If, on the other hand, I were to perform in public, alone or with a small group, I would opt for one of the 2 other brands. I am happy with my FR3x but I will not hesitate to change it if a good offer was proposed to me. See you soon and enjoy the music.
jphf51
29/09/2011
"It's a friendly fight" (it reminds me of something!). ) The all digital has evolved a lot, and on the market the arrival of the last one (bonifaci) will still shake the place, personally I also play on accoustic and frankly it is not the same, what reproaches to ROLLAND it is precisely its "touch" rather keyboard synth than accordion.is not the same, what I reproach to ROLLAND is precisely its "touch" rather keyboard synth than accordion and I really have difficulty to play at ease, I think I think that the VIVO system must be much closer to the accoustic from the point of view of sensations under the fingers, if there is a user of this modelIf there is a user of this model I would like to know his opinion, as for the budget obviously between ROLLAND and CAVA there is a gap that can make more than one think.Anyway, everyone has to enjoy themselves with what they have, Sincerely Djipy
Tenente Dan
29/09/2011
Ciao Djipy, I have a Cruccianelli accoustic and, at my modest level, I go from one to the other, without any problem. It is true that the Roland touch, ultra sensitive, does not forgive the smallest deviation. When I have money, I will try the others. If "friendly wrestling" reminds you of something, it's really involuntary, especially if it's a final. Good afternoon. Dan
danielmerxe
29/09/2011
Thank you Tenente Dan for your comment. I'm replying to you on the forum, so that everyone can benefit from my answer. In no case, personally I will not make a fight even friendly with Roland and Cavagnolo, because I respect these 2 brands. Less than a year and a half ago I bought the FR3 XB, I sold it within 3 months. As a professional, this accordion did not correspond to my expectations, of course this is only my opinion. I had the impression to make love with an inflatable doll, as beautiful as it is. But you, after 30 years of interruption, made the right choice. I would have done the same thing as you did, considering the price and the possibilities. I had the opportunity to try the Cava Digit with Jean-Louis Noton, whom I salute by the way, and I can say that it is a good machine, I was going to take the plunge despite the price. Unlike the Roland, the Cava and the VIVO Bonifassi have a real acoustic accordion touch. And then came my meeting with Mr. Bonifassi, the test of the VIVO, and there I am convinced. When Mr. Bonifassi offered me the position of Demonstrator, I immediately accepted the proposal because the VIVO had really caught my eye after a test on 15 galas. What I liked most, the weight 5,9 Kgs, the sounds, a wooden accordion, a real touch of accoustic, a HF Audio & midi integrated, 100% Italian construction, 20 H of autonomy and the price! The plain black model, 4 rows 96 basses, 4990 €, case and straps offered, as well as one hour of training offered. 2 years warranty. I feel good with the VIVO and I have only pleasure to demonstrate it, if it was the opposite I would have refused the job. So no fighting, even friendly, on the contrary you have the chance to compare 3 products and as the customer is king, and you have a good ear, you will also listen to the wallet and especially how you feel with the instrument, it is the most important! Remaining at your disposal for further information, I remain at your disposal, even for a test and a demonstration. Like that it is you who will judge. Sincerely and musically Dan PLUCHARD
danielmerxe
29/09/2011
Hello to all I'm glad to see that there are comments. But don't forget one thing you have to approach acoustic and digital as 2 different instruments. It's all in the bellows, no need to pull hard on the digital, when you are at one with the expression it is only happiness and the less you pull the less it is heavy! The acoustic will always be present, the ideal is to have both. Musically Dan PLUCHARD
retro26
29/09/2011
I take the liberty of joining the conversation, because I have had the opportunity to see and listen to this accordion and believe me, even if we do not know too much to date the BONIFASSI brand I can tell you that it is a brand that will hurt in terms of accordion.is a brand that will hurt in terms of accordion the characteristics of this jewel, have all to compete and then devalue the brands cited in your comments, it is obvious that the acoustic will always remain the acoustic, but the possibilities that offers theacoustic, but the possibilities that a digital offers while having seen the BONIFASSI at work gives desire to cross the step acoustic / digital, because more problems with the repisse in a sound system, it is a pleasure to sound without constraint the touch and almost identical to an acoustic and the possibility of having thousands of registers and sounds at hand, make that the digital remains an asset for an accordionist and for all instruments it is the same:) for the small anecdote I am a drummer and I knew these polemics Acoustic and Digital :))) and I can tell you that at a certain time I rushed on the digital in 1984 purchase of the revolution in the drums the SIMMONS SDS V then in 1986 the exit of the D DRUMS with 320 points of dynamics to nuance its play instead of 127 points that deI immediately bought the DDRUMS at the price of 32000,00 Fr because I knew that it would give me a plus for my job even if my drummer buddies were reluctant to use this kind of instrument. the future gave me reason for this purchase, because I do not tell you the sound engineers as they were happy to sound me :)) no more microphones that mess up, a great sound of drums with the acoustic touch allowing to make groove and inflections as well as on an acoustic. to summarize I can tell you that if I were an accordionist nowadays, I would immediately go for a digital product, privileging the sound, the convenience, the precision, the comfort, the possibilities that the midi offers and also without forgetting the weight gentlemen:))) very important this criterion and then frankly, 32000,00 Fr the DDRUM in 1986 we are far from 5000,00 euros nowadays :)) then seen what I saw of the product BONIFASSI do not hesitate gentlemen you can go head down I took pleasure to give you my opinion of drummer :))) good road to you all Jean-Charles
danielmerxe
29/09/2011
Hi Jean-Charles I think I recognized you, I think you are the former drummer of Daniel Guichard, Gilles Pellegrini, René Coll and others ... We had the opportunity to play together, glad to see you again and thanks for your opinion since you heard the product. And long live other musical adventures together Musically and Amicably Dan PLUCHARD
danielmerxe
29/09/2011
Hello to all, I worked on the VIVO in combination with the Ketron SD8, in HF and it works perfectly. We can call 200 registrations remotely, control the key start and all this without wires... The chords are well recognized, I am more and more satisfied with the VIVO. I feel better on stage, free of my movements, I went down among the dancers, no stalling. Musically Dan PLUCHARD
Tenente Dan
30/09/2011
This was a friendly and informative discussion. Just a little disagreement with dan. Since I was 6 years old and I am now 60, I have hugged many accordions. But not once, not once I say, have I confused them with the young women I have also hugged. Even in those uncertain states of the next morning that we all knew. Thank you and good day, Dan (Tenente Dan)
danielmerxe
30/09/2011
My dear Dan, Don't worry, I can tell the difference too, It was just an image, besides without consulting each other JL Noton said the same thing as me. Thanks for your comment and your humor. Try this if you can, hang an accordion on the back of a great girl (Preferably a Digital, it will be less heavy) And dance with her while playing a slow song, you will tell me about it ....................... !!!!!!!! Sincerely and Musically Dan PLUCHARD
danielmerxe
02/10/2011
For information Please note that the VIVO is available in a piano keyboard version. It is possible to switch from 96 to 120 basses and from 4 to 5 rows. Today, rest, remains at your disposal if you want a demo. Sincerely and musically Dan PLUCHARD
danielmerxe
02/10/2011
Good evening Stéphane, Thank you for your message and I'm glad you feel good with the VIVO. Let musicians know about this site. http://www.partitions-accordeon.com Musically Dan
sergeacc
03/04/2015
Hello daniel, me it's serge, (sergeacc) on the sitevoila my question, ok for the hf accordion but how does the hf work with a xd3 for example, is there a key to install on the arranger.
Thank you, musically
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